when did microsoft make phones? I know they make a phone os, but whole phones?

hmm, that may be the thing here. Nokia and microsoft are used to making one part of the equation, apple have always been doing "everything"...

iPad, meh. Just buy an iPhone and hold it close to your face...

would be fun if apple never releases details, as they only use it for their own products; and use fat binaries and their dev tools to mask any changes.

would be the ultimate black box, now that noone codes directly on the iron...

Or rather shove it into your face for that 9 inch feel

Yep, and let's face it, they're mad enough to give it a try!

I Think this about summs it up aptly...

Hitler's Response to the iPad

when iphone came out, it was a great innovation first OS specifically designed for touchscreen and many wow moments for it. Its a fantastic cellphone.

Ipad doesnt have any wow moments attached to it, none whatsoever. There was alot of expectation.

i was also thinking porting apple iphone os to ipad might have been a good idea if ipad came out a few months after iphone came out but in 2010 these features for 500 is not gonna help apple.

i love macbooks, iphone and cant believe what apple was thinking jan 27. I dont see it as a mass success, maybe a few mostly school going carrying it. It wont do anywhere near what iphone did and will continue to do.

Watched the presentation last night along with many other videos. I passed on the iPhone. Passed on the Touch. I will purchase this thing. This is a serious non-vaporware paradigm shift. I was particularly interested in how Streetview worked and how iWork "worked". This thing is huge.

Now I readily concede that it needs improvement. I do not like the Get apps from Apple. though I suspect that there will be some sort of Jailbreak to deal with this. The missing camera as I menetioned earlier is most likely a "milk 'em later" move. I expect to see Skype though I'd prefer Gizmo on it.

I did not see any mention of iChat. Which makes sense in that it's not meant to be a heavy text usage machine. But the inability to video chat is a real issue which Apple is going to have to deal with sooner rather than later. if I can supposedly watch video for hours on end, I can surely video chat.

While I found the game demos interesting I'm not really interested in games on the thing.
I also passed on the phone and touch due to DRM. I don't purchase video from the itunes store but I do rent from time to time via my Apple TV (I have Boxee and XMBC on it). Nor will I purchase tv episodes. I'll watch an advert..many adverts before I pay 2 bucks a pop for the shows I like. That ish adds up fast. I don't like not being able to play non Apple M4v files on my mobile devices, but to be honest I don't watch much non-YouTube video on my current mobile device. So really it's not a deal breaker for me.

I also think that there needs to be a means to tether to a phone for internet access a-la N800/810 rather than purchasing another data plan.

That said as a non-hacking computer it is a serious paradigm shift It's not about specs so much as it is about the experience. I like the experience that I saw. I would prefer to interact with my media the way the iPad allows me too. When I need to do my creative/text or mouse intensive stuff I'll go to my laptop which is exactly what is intended.

The number of times I would have preferred the screen size of my laptop when I'm on the couch without the keyboard of the laptop and/or having to find somewhere to perch it, is THE selling point of this device for me. That it also shows up as a USB disk when connected to my laptop/desktop, means I can move stuff to and from it as well (much like my 800).

Yes, this is going to be my first iProduct sale since my 20GB iPod and I will get it before I get a N900 unless my 800 dies and I can't find an 810 for a decent price.

Even better, get an N900 and use this.

http://www.uxcell.com/reading-glasse...s-p-24173.html